I agree that you, Jessica, may have went a little overboard on the way you stated your opinion, but I also do agree with your assessment on wanting a personal trainer who works out and looks fit. I agree that although Kristy definitely works out she doesn’t look fit. Lean is sexy but there is a point where it can just be too much. We all need to remember to keep a balance….because I don't care how thin you are if you look unhealthy it just isn't worth it.
There is more dissatisfaction in the fitness and diet industry than any other. Imagine that… this is absolutely Crazy, huh? I am just trying not to waste my MONEY or more importantly my TIME working with someone who can’t offer me guaranteed success.
It is a HUGE mistake to simply rely on any old trainer to help you to consistently get the results that you desire. I can't tell you how many people pay tons of money for expensive personal trainers (and their DVD’s and whatever they are pitching) and get little to no results after months and months of working with these people.
I mean really, do the math on this one. How can someone who has not achieved what you want to accomplish possibly help you how to get there?

See my reply to Anne:

http://joeyatlas.com/live-to-the-max/the-dynami…

Superficial snap judgments and ensuing remarks are often inaccurate; Just part of average human nature though… – Something to be mindful of on your journey…

Amen Joey. Well said. I second that

To Miss Kristy :

Wow from a 200 pounds heavyweight to a gorgeous fitness diva. What a transformation!! I wish i have hollow abs like urs. Not easy for a food lover like me. Im curious. Does fitness divas like kristy and joey ever eat like normal people? hehehe i mean like eating cheesecake, tiramisu and chocolate cake or eat lambchops? I love em. Hate to give it up to lose some blubber.

Nevertheless im inspired. i just lost 7kgs and 30kgs to go [ zillion of miles more to go i know] keep it up dyvas. Mwahz

Hi Elle!

Congratulations on your weight loss so far!! 7kg is awesome!! Stay focused and you will get to your end goal. Know that you have both myself and Joey supporting you

Lol to answer your question about if we eat like normal people … YES!! I don't believe in saying anything is off limits. Everything in moderation is fine. The key here is 'moderation'. But yeah, I eat ice cream, chocolate, chips … you name the bad food … I probably eat it at some point lol. But here's what I aim for … eat healthy 90% of the time and the other 10% we can indulge and enjoy the 'not so healthy' things we all love to eat. By the way … I LOVE cheesecake!!

Joey and I will talk more about this very topic so keep sending us your questions. The more questions … the more we can help. Keep up the great work Elle!!

Kristy

Joey – Before I move onward I have one last thing to say. You need to read your dictionary because the definition of comment is: 1. A remark; observation. 2. Gossip; talk. 3. A criticism or interpretation. 4. An annotation to a text.
The definition of thought is: 1. The product of mental activity. 2. An idea or notion. 3. The act or process of thinking. 5. Consideration or attention. 6. An opinion or belief.

Joey & Kristy – you two are such hypocrites!
On the website submityourarticle.com Joey Atlas states, A lean 'six pack' midsection is a sign of beauty, strength and attraction.” Isn’t that a little judgmental?
On the website articlebase.com Joey Atlas sates, “Yes, we occasionally see women who look like male bodybuilders or power-lifters – but these freakish looks can almost always be traced back to some method of pharmaceutical enhancement. For example, taking anabolic steroids to develop as much muscle mass as possible is one way for a woman to lose the fit and feminine look. Nothing against them – but they do not represent the definition of fitness.” Hmm… isn’t this calling the kettle black? YOU are judging and/or giving your opinion on someone’s looks/physique in this statement. And you are assuming they may be taking enhancement drugs. Even so – whatever way you look at it you think they look “freakish.” As you said, “Nothing against them – but they do not represent the definition of fitness.” That’s how I and other people feel about Kristy. Nothing against her, but in our view she doesn’t represent the definition of fitness to us.
You have also stated, “All people have their own personal definition of what it would mean for them to be in great physical condition.” So you’re saying our definition is wrong and yours is right. Hmm… contradiction, you think?
On your website, Bestfitnessadvice.com, you state, “See, this is one of those big mis-perceptions of fitness as it applies to the general public. Being strong, lean and 'well-toned' does not mean you want to be abnormally muscular with veins popping out of your forehead.”
To us so called naysayers – Being strong, lean and 'well-toned' does not mean WE want to be ABNORMALLY MUSCULAR with RIBS popping out of our body.

Kristy – you said that fitness is not about body image, but I beg to differ. While it isn’t the only aspect it still plays a part. Physical appearance has a lot to do with body image. Your profession deals with body images. You’re transforming bodies. Joey talks a lot about “looking in the mirror.” As quoted by Joey Atlas on butthipandthighmakeover.com, “Picture yourself at the next wedding, party, reunion or during your next vacation. Are you ready for that dress you would love to wear? Are you prepared to put on that bathing suit or bikini? Could you do it tomorrow if you had to? Would you be happy about it – as you look at yourself in the mirror today?”
Another quote from Joey Atlas at the same website, “Soon, you can be on your way to transforming that leg, butt, hip and thigh area, that you hate to look at in the mirror, into a shapely and firmly toned lower body that you want to show off to everybody.”
And yet another quote from the above website: In reference to the genetics, Joey Atlas states, “The only one that is not controlled by you is your genetics or more precisely – your genetic range. In other words, if you let yourself go, your genetics will ruin your body. But, if you take control of your life through smart, consistent, PROPERLY STRUCTURED workouts and nutritional habits, you will be in control of how your body looks. Not your genetics!”

I could write a book with all your quotes and contradictions.
BTW – Joey – As you stated to one of the posts, “Superficial snap judgments and ensuing remarks are often inaccurate; Just part of average human nature though… – Something to be mindful of on your journey..” Ditto for YOU! What Double standards you have.
I agree with the person who posted that this is like all the other internet stuff out there. People – Charming is another word for BS.
Peace Out!

Nicely handled Joey

wow!! the fitness diva actually replied. gonna print your answer and paste it at my bedroom and work place to motivate me. thank you.

If it is not trouble, can miss kristy please show a few exercise for those who has not healthy knees like mine. I cant do jogging or running because operation was done on it few years ago. If i run or do jog, it will hurt. I appreciate if can. anyway i did try to run. not only did it hurt but some people are laughing at me maybe coz it is funny a fat woman jogging so i stopped.

I thank you for your time reading my post. thank you.

Hey Elle,

For some reason my response post ended up as a normal comment.

Here it is: http://joeyatlas.com/live-to-the-max/the-dynami…

Talk soon

WOW!! Great post! Amazing analysis! You really did your homework. Gotta love it when someone exposes the hypocrisies of the fitness elite, especially when they’re prancing around with do-gooder messages that they fail to keep themselves.

Steven – any wound, be it a deep bruise – an open cut – or even stitches… will cause immediate pain when grabbed, pressed or hit. Natural human reaction is to scream when that pain is felt…

This is equally true for emotional wounds.

Let that analogy help you see deeper – and possibly more clearly, into the bigger picture here…

If not – there is much more to come.

Joey

I think what the clip shows best is: FITNESS IS FUN!!! Keep it up!!!

It’s sad (to me) that people have become so negatively opinionated, but regardless, I don’t see why I should keep silent about an important issue just because a few people will get upset.

Joey – I am proud to call YOU my friend! As my friend, I want you to know that the truth always emerges over time; the challenge is to get it right before history has been written.

The way I look at is that you have been able to do some amazing things with this website and inspiring people. That was your original passion, your goal. If your passion is starting change or shift and you want to share that perspective with others – do it! The worst thing that can happen is that you might lose some of your current audience, but gain a completely new one.
Change is always good. I have always admired people who do what they feel is right thing to do and persist in the face of adversity. So go ahead and share your new perspectives with us. It will just make us grow and learn further.

Leave you? I don’t think the people who admire your work will do anything of the sort. Even if some people leave, so what? Maybe the people who leave weren’t the best fit for your fitness community to begin with. If someone is really so offended about one opinion that they’re ready to write you out of their life, the relationship wasn’t that strong to begin with.

Amidst the wailing and gnashing of teeth about the presence of Kristy in the Joey Atlas Program, it’s a relief to have a calm voice reminding us that asserting our ideas on fitness matters in a respectful and rational manner is okay and even necessary. The world won’t end; the real friends won’t leave.

In truth, I am not sure how I feel about the Dynamic Duo part yet, but I would never stop following you because my opinion may differ from yours…in a fitness sense, that would be so totally idiotic. I think it would be a sad day if I felt our relationship had nothing of value simply because we don’t share the same views all the time. Plus, I believe in giving new things a chance. One never knows.

It becomes an argument of quality versus quantity. As a blogger/trainer or even just as a human being do you want lots of people around you who know relatively little about you and don’t have much of a stake in knowing you, or do you want to be grateful for the relationships and people you know that care about you, look at your perspectives and try to understand them, and will stick around? Quality is greater than quantity.

Regardless of where someone falls on a certain issue, what’s important is that we can actually have mature, intelligent discussions. I have far more respect for the people who disagree with me, but do so respectfully and intelligently than for those who agree with me and refuse to listen to any other viewpoint. Even if people disagree with what my views are, I expect them to respect me and the personal experiences that shaped them; as they should you.

Your blog is the only one I actually look forward to and read immediately. I think “hey! Joey wrote!” And it is nice knowing that you are reading the words of someone who genuinely cares about people. Keep on being who you are. It is clearly working and thanks for encouraging the rest of us. When you believe something (when it’s your passion), what you talk about is a way of life — not simply an opinion. Thanks for the challenge to be courageous…

Crazy that people feel the need (and the right) to restrict what you (or anyone else) should do. Maybe it causes them stress because it doesn’t fit into the neat little box they put you in.

I hope the relationship between Joey and his audience is deeper than a disagreement over how Kristy looks. I hope that his audience respects him enough as an individual to value his viewpoints, even if they don’t agree.

Be the most authentic person you can be and forget about what others think of you. The lesson is there is no right way or wrong way… just your way. The rules of etiquette still apply and manners, but as for your choices, they are yours to make… not ours. Glad you have the guts to stand up with integrity for what you believe in and the way you deliver your message. Also, Kudos for having the guts to do what you think is in their best interest. I think your idea is far more engaging than your typical cookie-cutter idea that plays it safe. Keep doing what you’re doing and the people who see the value will stick around whether they agree with your fitness views or not. I am one of them.

If some of your audience can’t deal with that, they aren’t worth stressing over. I’m sure the ones who unsubscribe/stop visiting are a tiny proportion of the ones who disagree with you in the first place.

I think Bill Cosby said it well “I don’t know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody”

I want to reiterate to everyone that giving your opinion is fine and let’s people know where you stand. We don’t have to agree with it as long as we accept the fact that you have a right to your personal opinions. But being “opinionated” is a whole different issue and leaves no room for an honest and respectful exchange of ideas. It has nothing to do with if we agree, but the principal of being able to share ourselves and be RESPECTED.

It’s sad that the world has become a scary place to express an opinion. Everything has been taken to an extreme. If we all express ourselves authentically on important issues and a respectful discussion is opened, imagine how much further we could be in terms of humanity. The key is RESPECT.

I’m glad to come out in support of you because you are speaking up about some really important issues. One of the reasons I so enjoy reading your blog is because you do write with such integrity and transparency about your views on fitness.

The important thing is to figure out how to state your opinion intelligently without resorting to personal attacks or unfair accusations. If people can’t handle that and get upset, that’s their problem.

Most of us are here for your intelligent, authentic voice and will keep coming back for more.

I think most intelligent people can disagree without taking things personally, and if someone was so offended by you sharing your views that they essentially boycotted you, they aren’t very mature to begin with.

It’s critical for us to learn how to discuss these issues rationally again, so Joey can make better plans, work out the kinks in the program, and agree on what the end results should look like. I encourage all of you to continue adding your rational, well-considered opinions so we can all get past the hyper-emotional rhetoric.

The fact of the matter is, we live in a world that is diverse, colorful and vibrant with difference
Why would we expect people to be anything less? If we all liked the same things, held the same opinions, and attended the same events, this world would be pretty bland and boring. A lot of it comes down to gratitude of what is, instead of what we think it should be.

I hope that my words have even changed one persons mind, made one person see the humanity rather than the fight. I hope that everyone keep those good thoughts coming.

About Kristy’s so-called ranting/tantrums: Although I think some people are totally misguided about what is truly happening here, “Let he/she who has never made a mistake throw the first stone.” Give her a chance, for some – a second chance. Remember EVERYONE deserves a second chance; if Joey vouches for Kristy that is good enough for me and should be for you.

Kat – to be able to put your thoughts into the written word like this is an AWESOME talent. One that does not come easily, or at all, to most people. Keep workin' it!! Something very special there.

And a sincere thank you for taking the time to post what you have in the several replies you have made. Your thoughts and support are *massively* appreciated by me – and Kristy… No doubt.

THANKS!

Joey

oh wow whish i had that much energy !!

HI Joey what a brilliant concept to work with Kristy she would be awesome. I think great stuff, no need to say much, her fitness level says it all and it show she loves doing it . Go for it dynamic duo

It would be easier to be inspired by Kristy if I knew what obstacles she has “overcome”. So far my impression is that she has always lived in the world of fitness and had great opportunities. Anyone care to comment??

Hey Angie. Thanks for your input on here. Have you listened to the first episode of The Fit-Life Show yet? We touch on some stuff there. Please feel free to email me (kristyleefitness@me.com) if you feel hearing more of my story will help inspire you. I'm more than happy to share more of my story with those of you that would like to hear it, or would like to get to know me on a more personal level.

“We Fitness into the 21st Century” would be an excellent name for your colaboration with Kristy.

Kristy Lee and Joey Atlas, what a combination. I can't wait to see your monthly web podcast.
Thanks Joey for making it possible.
Regards, Hilda.

Firstly, I am very thin my self. I'm 25 yrs old. 5 ft 6, 100 lbs. Struggle to gain weight with a blazing metab. I am very healthy, feel great. If I were to EVER speak about an overweight individual the way I see people comment on others being “too thin”, I WOULD GET CHEWED ON. You don't hear people say. “Oh, she's way–too–FAT. I would never want to look like her”. That would be rude, yes? The double standard is being overlooked and ignored. I am so discouraged by hearing women comment on how “too thin” and “way too skinny” women with thin frames are. You don't see us say “Eww, Put down the fork why don't you!?” No, because it would be way out of line, ignorant, and hurtful.

With that said, I think that for her size, she is a POWERHOUSE of vitality and strength, and beauty. Pound for pound probably more powerful than most grown men I know (some golden gloves winners). The spirit behind Kristy's exterior is a rare and devastatingly beautiful one. One that is fruitfully sharing here experiences and knowledge with others (=^_^=)

NEGATIVITY IS ANTI-PRODUCTIVE. GET OUT OF YOUR OWN WAY.

super!

Awesome! Looking forward to more